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ISWC Scoring

Scorekeeping Information

The rules and scorekeeping forms can be found on the ISWC website. All scores are to be submitted to Lord Caedmon Wilson as described on that website. He will rank the scores from all kingdoms by best score.

Lord Caedmon has agreed to pass on all East Kingdom scores to us so we can post them in our own rankings. We are ranking the East Kingdom engineer's scores by the average of their top three scores. Scores will be collected and ranked during the year with final results posted at the end of the year.

About the Competition

It is great that we are beginning down the road toward standardizing siege competitions. However, we all need to keep a few things in mind:

  • This is the first year that anyone anywhere has attempted to standardize SCA siege weapon scoring at the interkingdom level. For this reason, these rules should be considered experimental and will most certainly be changing in the future to reflect what we've learned during the year.
  • This is so new that not even all siege marshals are aware of the rules. So please be patient with us if you go to an event with siege and don't see an ISWC shooting opportunity. It will take time to learn how to build targets and learn how to run shoots.
  • One of the main design points of this first year was to keep the rules simple. So if anyone has any questions as to why a rule is the way it is, then that's probably the most common answer. However, don't be afraid to ask!
  • We want to encourage engineers, marshals and the populace to feel free to make suggestions and comment on the future of siege scoring. We wish to solicit any constructive ideas people may be able to come up with, especially if you've tried out the competition. Feel free to email the East Kingdom Siege Scorekeeper, or post a comment to the EKSMOG yahoo group (the EK siege guild).

Current Rankings

Click here to see the current ( 2006 ! ) rankings.

Frequently Asked Questions

Who is the EK siege scorekeeper?

Oh, yeah.... that's me, Hrelgar Igelkottson. I started getting involved in SCA siege last year and took the bait, hook, line, and sinker. I went to a handful of siege events last year including pennsic, and became a siege marshal. During the winter I became closely involved in the discussions which defined the rules for the ISWC. I am now actively trying to encourage the spread of competition siege. I have run several ISWC shoots which went smoothly and I have a complete set of targets.

I think it would be cool to add a fizzle wizzle widget to the gottermugger thingy on the target which would score 4.5 points when hit. What do you think?

As stated above, we are open to any suggestions for improvements. Please keep the following considerations in mind:
  • The target must be rugged and endure many hits from 1 pound missiles without failure. It must be also able to endure being tossed into the back of trailers and pickup trucks for transport.
  • The target must be simple and inexpensive to construct. We're all volunteers here and few of us can afford a lot of time and money to invest in fancy targets.
  • Targets must be easily transportable. This means that they should be collapsible and not outrageously heavy. They also should not need to take a long time to assemble on site.
  • If possible, moving elements on targets should automatically reset when hit. We don't want to have to go out to the range and reset targets after every shot if possible.
  • Cheap and simple is ideal!
I think that having a timed portion of the shoot would be a good idea. Are you going to add this?

Again, we wanted to keep the rules simple this year. This is a feature amongst many others that has been discussed and will be under consideration to be added or changed in the future. Everyone is encouraged to make your opinions known and let us know what you'd like to see in future standards, especially if you have practical experience with a feature (i.e. you've participated in shoots with the feature and can relate your experiences with it). The only thing we ask is to be patient with us.

Are there any proven designs for ISWC compliant targets?

Well, I have built a set based on Graywolf's tilt target design which seem to work pretty well so far. I hope to have pictures and construction details on a website soon. Stay tuned!

Can I just do a shoot in my backyard and submit the scores?

ISWC scoring is only allowed at practices and events with a warranted siege marshal present. All participants must be authorized siege engineers according to East Kingdom rules. Obviously you must have enough space for the range and have ISWC compliant targets. Naturally you must have enough engineers present to be able to operate the engine according to the EK Siege Handbook. Once you have all that, go ahead!

Will there be any type of ranking badges or awards based on these rankings?

That would be nice, but I don't think this is going to occur this year. We need to get some scores and validate/improve the scoring system before we can get to that stage.

Siege is inherently a team activity, so why isn't the ranking being done by team?

This is a good question, and we agree that team should be considered in ranking, eventually. However, it was decided to be as inclusive as possible in this first year, to get as many people involved as we could. Remember, if we ranked only by team, then the whole team must shoot together for the whole year. Given that many areas don't have more than one or two engineers, let alone could get the same people together for every ISWC event during the year, it was decided to keep this first year simple and rank only by individual engineer. We are definitely interested in looking at scoring by team in the future in addition to by individual.

 

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